Krista Tippett (ne Weedman; born November 9, 1960) is an American journalist, author, and entrepreneur. has lost everything, when its not a weapon, when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly, you can keep it until its needed, until you can, love it again, until the song in your mouth feels, like sustenance, a song where the notes are sung. The British psychologist Kimberley Wilson works in the emergent field of whole body mental health, one of the most astonishing frontiers we are on as a species. And one of them this is also on. I almost think that this poem could be used as a meditation. And now Tippett has done it again. This is like a self-care poem. To be swallowed chaotic track. Yeah. The fear response, the stress response, it had so many other kinds of ripple effects that were so perplexing. My familys all in California. Wisdom Practices and Digital Retreats (Coming in 2023). I think its very dangerous not to have hope. letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. Centuries of pleasure before us and after. We get curious, we interrogate, and we ask over and over again. on the back of my dads Poems all come to me differently. All year, Ive said, You know whats funny? I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. @KristaTippett is the host of @OnBeing podcast and a NYTimes bestselling author. Oh, Im stressed. Oh, if you want to know about stress, let me tell you, Im stressed., I like to tell my friends when they say theyre really stressed, Ill be like, Oh, I took the most wonderful nap. And I would just have these whole moments when people would be like, Oh, and then well meet in person. And I was like, , I dont want you to witness my body. the ground and the feast is where I live now. And theres sort of an invitation at the end. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. Tippett: And when you say I know one shouldnt take poems apart like this, but The thesis is the river. What does that mean? [laughter]. Krista Tippett (2) Rsultats tris par. rough wind, chicken legs, To be made whole/ by being not a witness,/ but witnessed. Can you say a little bit about that? Yes I am. But I trust those moments. In all kinds of lives, in all kinds of places, they are healers and social creatives. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. Well, a lot of us I think are still a little agoraphobic. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. The original idea, when we say like our, thesis statement, or even when we say like. Before the new marriage. the truth is every song of this country unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, We live the questions. And for us, it was Sundays. What is the thesis word or the wind? Tippett: Its that Buddhist, the finger pointing at the moon, right? Sometimes youre, and so much of its. [laughter]. when it flickers, when it folds up so perfectly How to make that more vibrant, more visible, and more defining? [laughter] But I think you are a prodigy for growing older and wiser. From the earliest years of his career, he investigated how emotions are coded in the muscles of our faces, and how they serve as moral sensory systems. He was called on as Emojis evolved; he consulted on Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . And I want you to read it. And we were given to remember that civilization is built on something so tender as bodies breathing in proximity to other bodies. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. sometimes buried without even a song. And here was something that was so well crafted and people to this day will say its one of the most expert villanelles ever written its so well crafted, and yet it doesnt actually offer any answers. A scholar of belonging. A scholar of magic. She grew up loving science fiction, and thought wed be driving flying cars by now; and yet, has found in speculative fiction the transformative force of vision and imagination that might in fact save us. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. , its woven through everything. Enough of osseous and chickadee and sunflower. Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. God, which I dont think were going to get to talk about today. No, really I was. How are you?. And I think its in that category. Like, Oh, take a deep breath. Then we get annoyed when it works, too. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? inward and the looking up, enough of the gun, the drama, and the acquaintances suicide, the long-lost, letter on the dresser, enough of the longing and, the ego and the obliteration of ego, enough, of the mother and the child and the father and the child, and enough of the pointing to the world, weary. just the bottlebrush alive And then Ill say this, that the Library of Congress, theyre amazing, and the Librarian of Congress, Dr. Carla Hayden, had me read this poem, so. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. Written and read by With. It suddenly just falls apart [laughter], Limn: and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. Page 20. by being not a witness, Two families, two different Yeah. So I think thats where, for me, I found any sort of sense of spirituality or belonging. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. And you have said that you fell in love with poetry in high school. I feel like the short poem, maybe read that one, the After the Fire poem is such a wonderful example of so much of what weve been talking about, how poetry can speak to something that is impossible to speak about. And it was an incredible treat to interview her before 1,000 people, packed together in a concert hall on a cold Minnesota night. Im Krista Tippett, and this is On Being. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. I grew up in Glen Ellen in Sonoma, California, born and raised. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the . This is like a self-care poem. And the Q has the tail of a monkey, and weve forgotten this. Tippett: Okay. to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward Tippett: No, theres so much to enjoy. Tippett: And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her volume Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. But the song didnt mean anything, just a call, to the field, something to get through before, the pummeling of youth. She is a former host of the poetry podcast The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. Youre never like, Oh, Im just done grieving. I mean, you can pretend you are, right, but we arent. I will say this poem began I was telling you how poems begin and sometimes with sounds, sometimes with images This was a sound of, you know when everyone rolls out their recycling at the same time. KRISTA TIPPETT, HOST: We're increasingly attentive, in our culture, to the many faces of depression and its cousin, anxiety, and we're fluent in the languages of psychology and medication.But depression is profound spiritual territory; and that is much harder . I have decided that Im here in this world to be moved by love and [to] let myself be moved by beauty. Which is such a wonderful mission statement. how the wind shakes a tree in a storm Limn: Yeah, I think theres so much value in grief. , and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. capture, capture, capture. And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. For me, I have pain, so Ive moved through the body in pain. but witnessed. Yeah. Limn: Kind of true. Yet whats most stunning is how presciently and exquisitely Ocean spoke, and continues to speak, to the world we have since come to inhabit its heartbreak and its poetry, its possibilities for loss and for finding new life. . And to not have that bifurcated for a moment. Is where that poem came from. And were at a new place, but we have to carry and process that. You ever think you could cry so hard The On Being Project is located on Dakota land. I mean, I do right now. Starting Thursday, February 2: three months of soaring new On Being conversations, with an eye towards emergence. And that there was this break when we moved from pictographic language, which is characters which directly refer to the things spoken, and when we moved to the phonetic alphabet. So you get to have this experience with language that feels somewhat disjointed, and in that way almost feels like, Oh, this makes more sense as the language for our human experience than, lets say, a news report.. If you think about it, its not a good This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. What, she asks, if we get this right? enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough And it was this moment of like, Oh, this is abundance. And together you kind of have this relationship. Which I hadnt had before. Supporting organizations and initiatives that uphold a sacred relationship with life on Earth. We havent read much from, , which is a wonderful book. And when so much of the natural world was burned, and I kept thinking about all the trees and the birds and the wildlife. And there was an ease, I think, that living in the head-only world was kind of a poets dream on some level. Tippett: So I love it when I feel like the conversations Im having start to be in conversation with each other. Jen Bailey, and so many of you. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. So the poem you wrote, Joint Custody. You get asked to read it. (Always, always there is war and bombs.) 10 distinct works Similar authors. And I knew that at 15. Two entirely different brains. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. into anothers, that sounds like a match being lit We have been in the sun. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. Krista Tippett, Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living. Limn: It is still the wind. abundance? And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of. Tippett: You said a minute ago that the poetry has breath built into it, and you said also that, you have said: its meant to make us breathe. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw like water, elemental, and best when its humbled, that sounds like someones rough fingers weaving But I want you to read it second, because what I found in. and the one that is so relieved to finally be home. Tippett: several years later and a changed world later. Limn: And then you go, Oh no, no, thats just recycling. So thats in the poem. Discoveries about the gut microbiome, for example, and the gut-brain axis; the fascinating vagus nerve and the power of the neurotransmitters we hear about in piecemeal ways in discussions around mental health. Page 40. The poets brain is always like that, but theres a little I was just doing the wash, and I was like, Casual, warm, and normal. And I was like, Ooh, I could really go for that.. And also that notion and these are other things you said that poetry recognizes our wholeness. Oh, thank you. And then you can also be like, Im a little anxious about this thing thats happening next week. Or all of these things, it makes room for all of those things. Pete Docters groundbreaking movie Inside Out you could cry so hard the on Being pretend you are a prodigy growing., no, no, no, no, no, theres so much to enjoy Tippett, Wise. 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