No where did she usurp authority etc. The word astonished means to be struck with amazement. If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. to me she lacks conviction of the word I dont hear it; she reminds me of Joel Osteen and thats not a compliment. I dont follow TGC any more. I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. If you are also then do we not have the same Holy Spirit to counsel and teach us? Scripture: Philippians 3:12-16 John Huffman Introduction I don't know if you are like me, but I imagine you are. A NIGHTMARE ON DESERT STREET! Assembly Of God. Well, technically, this article would fall under the category of discernment, but yes, I guess you could say Im into apologetics as all Christians are called to be :0). She does. You do not want to get rid of fear entirely. Im not seeing anyone speaking against her except small sources. Going by her recent appearances, she no longer seems to have any reservations about violating the Scriptures that prohibit her from teaching and preaching to men. (And if you need any help getting started, Ive got some resources that will help you under the Bible Studies tab at the top of this page.) Paul refuted public false teaching publicly many times. Baptist. It does NOT say, and be baptist. she said what she means by that is, to see biblical womanhood flourish would be a great joy! SCRIPTURES YOU CAN USE: I will give them a heart to know Me, for I am the Lord; and they will be My people, and I will be their God, for they will return to Me with their whole heart. You are very kind and encouraging :0). There are two crucial reasons for this. Also, the small sources dont have skin in the book and lecture circuit game.
With all that said, I do not say any of this out of ill intent, anger, or anything along those lines, I simply wanted to clarify, and say, that I agree with Michelles exegesis of (Matthew. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. *It's always a good idea to look back over life and think about the people who have made a difference: People who helped us in a time of need. Maybe a good example of Priscilla using eisegesis to teach scripture? But I dont recall her suggesting that Christians meditate or pursue contemplative prayer. Still, knowing his perspective and the fact that hes her father doesnt change the fact that what Priscilla Shirer is doing is wrong. This article is more along the lines of a court case where youre on the jury and Im showing you the evidence of Priscilla Shirer breaking the law. Michelle Thank you for your work in the area of discernment. A large chunk of the New Testament (Matthew 7:15-23, 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, the book of Jude, and many other passages) is devoted to warning people against false teaching. Scripture:
My point to your previous reply to me is that I refer to my bible for instructions from the Holy Spirit as to my role in the body of Christ.
I dont want to lead us astray ). There are some instances in which it is biblically permissible for a man to be in the room while a woman is teaching the Bible, but if the men you saw were there for biblical instruction from a woman, they were violating Scripture (see #1 & 2 here https://michellelesleybooks.com/2015/12/18/rock-your-role-faqs/). and Serita Jakes (see below). Mark 8:25 Verse Concepts Lots of information about those online and at http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com and Berean Research. Besides the short paragraph you provided on Lisa Harper in the list of other not-recommended teachers, do you have or know of any other good info/reviews on her? He wants you to learn good theology and sound doctrine. Being a person of great influence and wealth, he had demanded that he be given a place in the group because he wanted to "perform" before
And then help teach it to other women. The law in this case, being Scripture. Also your references in Matthew do not apply, and sadly this out of context mess gets regurgitated as much, if not more so, as Matthew 7, and the whole Do not ever judge crowd. Could you please provide me with a link to an article or video where she says that so I can check it out?
And how their lives could be changed, too. Then why did you ask me any questions? Pastor Chris Rosebrough explains why Priscillas twisting of John 10 to mean that we can hear God speak to us is unbiblical. Do you have other references to their false teaching? Verse Concepts. Matthew 28:1-20, Denomination:
Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? Priscilla Shirer is a wife and mom of three boys hailing from the Dallas area. 18:15-18), although I would add: The minute someone puts something on Youtube, Face Book, Twitter, or any other social media, or public outlet for that matter, your proof text falls flat in on itself, because more than anything this text deals with proper Church discipline. With continuous prayer, we have decided to proceed with her study but with open eyes to the objections you brought up. Is highly recomended, presenting four distinctive views about going "beyond the Bible", in ethics and moral issues, each one written by serious scholar. 1:37-When these believerswho had experienced different things about God became part of my life, my eyes were opened to see God in a brand new way. read more, Scripture:
I can tell that just from your comment. Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. Priscilla Shirer: Living Your Life For Christ (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (February 18, 2021) Priscilla speaks at Christine Caines Propel Womens Conference. If a big guy writes against a LifeWay person, he might not get anymore invitations. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. read more, Scripture:
This is not a Church. If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. Why do you think I do not? A sermon examining the fact that we should ever be amazed by Jesus. 4.
Let me tell you something, if your church recommended War Room, you can almost be certain that its leadership knew next to nothing about Shirer. Instead, she is dangling in front of Christian women an emotionally appealing and unbiblical carrot of miraculous and unique personal experiences with God instead of teaching them to properly study their Bibles and rely on Scripture alone for their doctrine and practices. Then you won't arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. We shouldnt believe just whatever we see on the internet. Go beyond putting ourselves first. 3. Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. Matthew 6:9-13. Even if shes twisted. Lord, thank You that You are the Good Shepherd and You speak and we hear Your voice. Love Your Life 2018 (March 20, 2019) with Victoria Osteen and Terri Savelle Foy, Know Your God | Joyce Meyer and Priscilla Shirer (In this clip, Priscilla also gushes over Henry Blackaby who mishandles Scripture and teaches a form of mysticism. And His promises will never let you down or disappoint you. Do you have any other examples? If he had, he would have been advocating one of four principles, which are inconsistent with the rest . No, Im afraid theres no such thing as a false teacher being an entryway into the faith any more than a bowl of cyanide can be a good appetizer before a healthy dinner. First,this is a sin. Ann Voskamp, Beth Moore, Jen Hatmaker, Jennie Allen, From: Choose What is Right: A Study in Discernment- Lesson 1: Introduction. Jeremiah 24:7. And this faith is . Also, if you had read the paragraph at the very top of this article and clicked on please click here and read this article first, your initial question in this comment (about sin) would have been answered.
All you need to say is simply 'Yes' or 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one. Have you ever pondered how a rubber band feels when a person stretches it beyond where it has been? I KNOW this original post is over a year old. Why would the Bible give us both descriptive and prescriptive instruction to warn against false teaching if doing so is a sin (gossip)? Rebekah gave the servant water but also volunteered to water the 10 camels as well. Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." August 11, 2002 AM Unfortunately, they depend on LifeWay to deliver sound material. Otherwise, it appears this is a form of gossip.. ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! Now, reading your post, I see that your words against her work and I do not understand why believers behave the way they do against fellow believers. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: There are two sources for fear: when we are caught up in something we did not count on, and when we are not in control. Id be interested in hearing what Tony Evans says about his daughters doctrine. Going Beyond Ministries is focused on the expository teaching of the Word of God.
Ill let you know how we continue our course of action. It is a sad irony that Priscilla Shirer opted to name her ministry Going Beyond, because this is exactly what she is choosing to do right now. Priscilla Shirer is. I think you are judging and do not agree with you. THE CALL? If you're new or would like to comment, please see the "Welcome- Start Here" tab at the top of this page. I thought parables were a kind of means to read yourself into scripture? So, to "not go beyond what is written" means to focus on Jesus and His Word above all else. 1 Peter 2:1 says: So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander.
NOW, I have to preface this with this was MANY years ago. This is a very good reason not to sit under their teaching. There are
I havent done One in a Million yet) this is supposition on your part. Our new series is designed and I believe inspired by the Holy Spirit to show how Christianity is not just about going to church on Sunday morning. But we hope that as your faith increases, our area of influence among you will greatly increase as well, 16 so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. Fortunately, those arent your only two choices. In closing out this conversation, I would strongly encourage you to continue practicing what youve said- just study your Bible in a systematic way, using good hermeneutics, and stay away from false teachers like Priscilla Shirer. Next, as I hope you would agree, Scripture is our final authority as Christians. I think it should be obvious that a face to face discussion is different from a written one, so theres no need to go into that. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? Copyright 2003-2023 | Outreach, Inc., All rights reserved. (Yikes!). Throughout
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